treblah
Aug 3, 01:18 AM
http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/08/02/first_core-2_duo_benchmarks/
Here you go buddy.
More noteworthy than the performance result is the way the T7600 achieved the performance gain. Despite the fact that the processor is rated at a higher thermal design power than its predecessor (34 watts and 31 watts, respectively), Merom consumed slightly less power during the benchmark run. The exact system ran nine minutes or 7% longer with the Merom chip than with the Core Duo. This result is especially impressive if we consider the fact that Merom packs twice the amount of (power consuming) L2 Cache on its die: The Core 2 Duo T 7600 comes with 4 MB, while the Core Duo T2600 uses 2 MB.
GOOD GOD, 7%!!! Oh wait, that sounds pretty consistent to me. :rolleyes:
Here you go buddy.
More noteworthy than the performance result is the way the T7600 achieved the performance gain. Despite the fact that the processor is rated at a higher thermal design power than its predecessor (34 watts and 31 watts, respectively), Merom consumed slightly less power during the benchmark run. The exact system ran nine minutes or 7% longer with the Merom chip than with the Core Duo. This result is especially impressive if we consider the fact that Merom packs twice the amount of (power consuming) L2 Cache on its die: The Core 2 Duo T 7600 comes with 4 MB, while the Core Duo T2600 uses 2 MB.
GOOD GOD, 7%!!! Oh wait, that sounds pretty consistent to me. :rolleyes:
toddybody
Apr 7, 11:33 AM
Every choice you make has consequences. If Apple were to put in a non integrated graphics card, they would have less battery life, their Macbooks would be bigger, weigh more and have greater trouble with disposal of heat.
This is not what Apple customers want.
If that were true then why does Apple bless the 15inch with a dedicated solution and not the 13? Battery life? Optimus switching (something they already tout), bigger? the 13" and 15" are the same thickness...the 17" is .02" thicker yet has the SAME spec options as the 15". Footprint is NOT the issue...its a simple price/feature model(want more? pay more). Personally, I think THAT is not what Apple customers want.
Now, I agree with you that they cant go slapping a GTX480m in there for the reasons you cited:)
PS: How did my earlier post imply that Apple should "give parts to companies"...etc ? Apple can do what they like, I just prefer that competition has a chance to push the envelope.
This is not what Apple customers want.
If that were true then why does Apple bless the 15inch with a dedicated solution and not the 13? Battery life? Optimus switching (something they already tout), bigger? the 13" and 15" are the same thickness...the 17" is .02" thicker yet has the SAME spec options as the 15". Footprint is NOT the issue...its a simple price/feature model(want more? pay more). Personally, I think THAT is not what Apple customers want.
Now, I agree with you that they cant go slapping a GTX480m in there for the reasons you cited:)
PS: How did my earlier post imply that Apple should "give parts to companies"...etc ? Apple can do what they like, I just prefer that competition has a chance to push the envelope.
MorphingDragon
May 6, 06:58 AM
I want them to go AMD across the board.
I'd like that.
AMD is currently a bang for buck chip maker, I doubt you'll see them CPUs in Apple products. Plus until Fusion develops some more the thermal envelope isn't too good.
I'd like that.
AMD is currently a bang for buck chip maker, I doubt you'll see them CPUs in Apple products. Plus until Fusion develops some more the thermal envelope isn't too good.
toddybody
Mar 31, 09:18 AM
Sabertooth.
"It's called Sex Panther by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries... Yep, it's made with bits of real panther, so you know it's good."
Best OSX name ever.
"It's called Sex Panther by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries... Yep, it's made with bits of real panther, so you know it's good."
Best OSX name ever.
iJohnHenry
May 3, 10:26 AM
I like my miles, inches, gallons, and pounds.
I like my inches in centimetres, because it seems longer, and my pounds in stones, because it seems lighter. :p
I like my inches in centimetres, because it seems longer, and my pounds in stones, because it seems lighter. :p
rovex
Mar 29, 01:44 PM
In 5-10 years the iPod will become extinct. By then the touch will be hanging on a thin wire.
ghostface147
May 4, 03:55 PM
As long as "preferred" doesn't mean the only way to get it, I'm good.
rxse7en
Aug 4, 07:10 AM
*fingers crossed*
Please, let the new MBP be socketed!
*fingers crossed*
Please, let the new MBP be socketed!
*fingers crossed*
aldejesus
Mar 30, 10:56 PM
That's the graphic core onboard the Core i7 die. It doesn't change to ATi graphics when you use something graphically intensive?
I don't have ATI graphics, just the Intel integrated.
I don't have ATI graphics, just the Intel integrated.
jb510
Mar 27, 12:43 AM
Pushing the iPhone 5, along with iOS 5, to the fall really wouldn't surprise me at all. In fact it would seem a little weird if Apple were to finally release a white iPhone 4 and then release an iPhone 5 a month or two later... even if they have constantly kept "last years" model around at a discount previously. Maybe the white iPhone will be and iPhone 5...
I am not making a guess either way, just saying I think it's 50/50 at this point and that I put no faith in any of the rumors yet...
Similarly I do think an iPad 3 (or iPad 2 HD) could come out before Christmas, in fact releasing iPad in the fall makes much more sense to me than in the spring as they have been since they make better gifts than phones. I think Apple could release an iPad 2 HD right now in fact, but would have to sell it at a loss, so they are waiting until the competition gets closer to and then they'll roll it out to trounce them again.
Those trying to read between the lines with the notion that Steve deliberately coded a message into his presentation to indicate there would not be another iPad this year are delusional and unfamiliar with Apple. It's actually MORE likely that the presentation was structured to mislead people into believing there wasn't another iPad coming than the opposite.
I am not making a guess either way, just saying I think it's 50/50 at this point and that I put no faith in any of the rumors yet...
Similarly I do think an iPad 3 (or iPad 2 HD) could come out before Christmas, in fact releasing iPad in the fall makes much more sense to me than in the spring as they have been since they make better gifts than phones. I think Apple could release an iPad 2 HD right now in fact, but would have to sell it at a loss, so they are waiting until the competition gets closer to and then they'll roll it out to trounce them again.
Those trying to read between the lines with the notion that Steve deliberately coded a message into his presentation to indicate there would not be another iPad this year are delusional and unfamiliar with Apple. It's actually MORE likely that the presentation was structured to mislead people into believing there wasn't another iPad coming than the opposite.
alent1234
Apr 7, 11:23 AM
apple was supposed to have bought up all the smartphone displays as well, yet it's easy to buy an Atrix, Inspire or any other android phone. manufacturers just use screen sizes that apple doesn't use
Tilpots
Apr 9, 09:12 PM
Because to teach kids the correct way to do math, teachers make up examples in which some actual thinking is needed to solve the problem. Written the way you just put it, it does not teach pemdas, something this math problem is obviously supposed to do. Your math teacher obviously taught u wrong or you just forgot how to do math as my numerous facts supported by searches prove. I dont need to call anyone, I taught SAT review courses for over a decade and my wife is currently a math teacher. But please take my challenge. Go to your local school and ask any math teacher how to properly do pemdas if u still can't accept the fact that u are clearly, beyond any shadow of a doubt, wrong.
BS. The only lesson to be learned here is that teachers devise lame pneumonic devices to confuse kids. If you're so damn smart, why wouldn't you properly write the correct equation with proper groupings in the first place?
Look at the poll, the groups divided about 50/50. Great job you and your teaching pals did. So much for "perfectly noted." This example is a classic glass half full/empty exercise.
Tastes great. (who's with me):p
BS. The only lesson to be learned here is that teachers devise lame pneumonic devices to confuse kids. If you're so damn smart, why wouldn't you properly write the correct equation with proper groupings in the first place?
Look at the poll, the groups divided about 50/50. Great job you and your teaching pals did. So much for "perfectly noted." This example is a classic glass half full/empty exercise.
Tastes great. (who's with me):p
ScoopOZ
Nov 27, 12:38 AM
I wrote the original story based on information from Taiwan.
BlizzardBomb
Aug 7, 02:37 PM
I'll wait for that until Paris, and if it isn't available then, I'll buy a PC with Core 2 Duo E6600 and GeForce 7900 GT.
Mac OS X not do anything for you? :) I do agree that there is space for a Mid-range desktop.
I think if Apple just made the Mac Mini a bit bigger. They could fit in a Core 2 Duo (Conroe) inside along with a 3.5" Hard Drive and GMA X3000. The 1.86 GHz Conroe kills the Yonah Core Solo in everything and costs less than the Core Solo. A 3.5" Hard Drive is also much better in the value department. Couple this with an option for a Single-Woodcrest Mac Pro and it completely eliminates the need for a mid-range tower.
Mac OS X not do anything for you? :) I do agree that there is space for a Mid-range desktop.
I think if Apple just made the Mac Mini a bit bigger. They could fit in a Core 2 Duo (Conroe) inside along with a 3.5" Hard Drive and GMA X3000. The 1.86 GHz Conroe kills the Yonah Core Solo in everything and costs less than the Core Solo. A 3.5" Hard Drive is also much better in the value department. Couple this with an option for a Single-Woodcrest Mac Pro and it completely eliminates the need for a mid-range tower.
ihaveNFC
May 7, 10:10 AM
I personally wouldn't care either way. I used the trial for about 25 days before the nostalgia wore off. That's me though.
X2468
Mar 27, 09:35 AM
I really hope wwdc is going to focus on computers rather than its IOS toys.
I agree. I would like some focus on computers also.
If one looks at the reported sales volume, the money that seemingly is Apples highest priority, is in the iOS devices.
I also believe that Snow Leopard is the last true computer OS from Apple.
Apple's already given us enough info to assure that we have calibrated our expectations about Lion to include a heavy dose of iOS.
Since Apple has avoided getting serious about computers for medium to large scale enterprises they can easily let their computers go altogether in the not too distant future.
Many may argue the contrary since Apple introduced the new MBA & MBP models. However other than a new shape for the MBA, there's nothing that required much from Apple.
If one looks at the demographics of the typical Apple customer today, it's the mainstream big box customer that Apple has successfully targeted.
Apples in the shiny toy business for the long haul.
I agree. I would like some focus on computers also.
If one looks at the reported sales volume, the money that seemingly is Apples highest priority, is in the iOS devices.
I also believe that Snow Leopard is the last true computer OS from Apple.
Apple's already given us enough info to assure that we have calibrated our expectations about Lion to include a heavy dose of iOS.
Since Apple has avoided getting serious about computers for medium to large scale enterprises they can easily let their computers go altogether in the not too distant future.
Many may argue the contrary since Apple introduced the new MBA & MBP models. However other than a new shape for the MBA, there's nothing that required much from Apple.
If one looks at the demographics of the typical Apple customer today, it's the mainstream big box customer that Apple has successfully targeted.
Apples in the shiny toy business for the long haul.
Eidorian
Aug 4, 10:55 AM
Give me a break. People voted negative on this because they are waiting on merom MBPs and now think that, contrary to they're hopes and prayers the past few weeks, that the Merom MBP revisions wont be out until september. This is no clandestine PC-clone smear campaign. who's it going to effect? This forum is full of the faithful, messing around here isn't going to change national opinion of Microsoft or apple products. It's not Steve Ballmer twisting his handlebar mustaches as he chortles to himself, going from one article to the next, voting negative at each. Let's get real here.You sir are correct.
rtdunham
Nov 22, 10:47 AM
...it was the same for Creative, Real and now Palm...they are almost dead with their crappy PDAs
I like my Treo a lot. But what i really want is its capabilities (better executed) in a phone the size of a RAZR or Samsung A900. Maybe that can be done, maybe not.
I like my Treo a lot. But what i really want is its capabilities (better executed) in a phone the size of a RAZR or Samsung A900. Maybe that can be done, maybe not.
bushido
Apr 20, 06:04 AM
Not if it reduces battery life.
the battery life is bad enough as it is, i don't care if it reduces by half an hour or sth. i have to charge it every night either way. so 4inch bring it on, about time
the battery life is bad enough as it is, i don't care if it reduces by half an hour or sth. i have to charge it every night either way. so 4inch bring it on, about time
EagerDragon
Sep 15, 05:25 PM
It is expected since other laptop makers will be shipping the meron laptops around the same time. More likely upgrade comes this Tuesday (9/19).
chrono1081
Apr 7, 01:54 PM
It's sad but it's starting to sound like that's exactly what anti-Apple people want. They're making it sound like Apple regularly colludes with suppliers. Maybe it does, but there's no proof, or at least Apple buying up the supply of touch panels certainly doesn't constitute proof.
Apple legitimately amassed a large cash reserve. Apple is using that massive hoard of cash to secure the best possible deals with component suppliers. If that's called anticompetitive, then I don't know what to say.
+1 its not anticompetitive, its smart. Apple actually MOVES these things and people buy them. It would only be anti-competitive if they bought a ton of them on purpose and never used them.
The amount of anti-apple on mac rumors is sickening anymore. Its like going to engadget.
Apple legitimately amassed a large cash reserve. Apple is using that massive hoard of cash to secure the best possible deals with component suppliers. If that's called anticompetitive, then I don't know what to say.
+1 its not anticompetitive, its smart. Apple actually MOVES these things and people buy them. It would only be anti-competitive if they bought a ton of them on purpose and never used them.
The amount of anti-apple on mac rumors is sickening anymore. Its like going to engadget.
manu chao
Jul 30, 12:27 PM
They [flip phones] have more moving parts that can break ...
True, but as long as my RAZR keeps working, my personal perception of how high that risk is, tells me that this is not an important factor.
and take longer to answer, especially if your hands are full or you're driving
your car.
It still takes longer to get my cellphone out of my pocket than to flip it open. I can flip it open with one hand and without having to look at it (somehow important when driving).
True, but as long as my RAZR keeps working, my personal perception of how high that risk is, tells me that this is not an important factor.
and take longer to answer, especially if your hands are full or you're driving
your car.
It still takes longer to get my cellphone out of my pocket than to flip it open. I can flip it open with one hand and without having to look at it (somehow important when driving).
bradl
May 6, 02:22 AM
[url="http://semiaccurate.com/2011/05/05/apple-dumps-intel-from-laptop-lines/"]SemiAccurate claims (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/05/06/apple-to-move-from-intel-to-arm-processors-in-future-laptops/) to have heard that Apple will be transitioning from Intel processors to ARM processors in the not too distant future.
Interesting rumour.
I heard the other way around, that Apple will be using Intel as its main processor manufacturer (http://www.winbeta.org/?q=news/intel-build-next-generation-processor-ios-devices) for the iPad,iPod Touch, and iPhone, and will more than likely make that switch within the next year.
Reasons may be because of the ongoing lawsuits between Apple and Samsung, which they currently use.
I heard it enough, that it even got slashdotted (http://apple.slashdot.org/story/11/05/03/1357202/Intel-To-Build-Next-Gen-Processor-For-iOS-Devices).
So why go the exact opposite for the laptops when they would still be with Intel for their other devices? It would make better sense to standardize across the board.
BL.
Interesting rumour.
I heard the other way around, that Apple will be using Intel as its main processor manufacturer (http://www.winbeta.org/?q=news/intel-build-next-generation-processor-ios-devices) for the iPad,iPod Touch, and iPhone, and will more than likely make that switch within the next year.
Reasons may be because of the ongoing lawsuits between Apple and Samsung, which they currently use.
I heard it enough, that it even got slashdotted (http://apple.slashdot.org/story/11/05/03/1357202/Intel-To-Build-Next-Gen-Processor-For-iOS-Devices).
So why go the exact opposite for the laptops when they would still be with Intel for their other devices? It would make better sense to standardize across the board.
BL.
Saladinos
May 7, 01:13 PM
Well, iAds are all HTML5 so its natural that they'd expand to the web. What better test than Apple's own fledgling web service?
A free, ad-supported model is just what they need, and the better integration with iDevices and Macs continues the subtle push to switch.
Makes total sense. Hope it happens soon. I'll reclaim my old MobileMe account.
A free, ad-supported model is just what they need, and the better integration with iDevices and Macs continues the subtle push to switch.
Makes total sense. Hope it happens soon. I'll reclaim my old MobileMe account.
